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17 July 2008 @ 06:56 pm
My theories and thoughts on otherkin  
Ok... I'll admit it... I've been on and off again accepting/skeptical/wtf about the otherkin stuff in spite of dreaming/seeing wings on me and having some people see them too.

But everything I read rings so many damned bells with me that I seriously can't deny it. And all of the stuff points to something very interesting.

You know how people are magicians, they practice magick? Ok. I think that otherkin ARE magick. I think that their very existence, something in how they came to be born here is magickal. And those who have had "awakenings" basically flipped that switch, opened the damned fobwatch (woo-hoo Doctor Who ref FTW!! ^_^), and "let 'er rip".

So of course psychic shit comes naturally to them, happens to them, and stuffs. Couldn't tell ya about the other manifestations--other than I think we all sorta are tapped into something which resonates with our magickal natures on that level. I think that natural healers, lightworkers, et cetera of COURSE will be angelkin. That makes just too much sense. Angels are messengers/helpers of the divine, right?

My dad once told me he's part fae. I suspect that part of this is genetic or can be genetic. I couldn't say it's ENTIRELY genetic. I mean, I know people who consider themselves to be otherkin but their parents are (omgs please shoot me for using this term but I dunno how else to put it) "muggles".

This whole debate about whether or not otherkin are just people "trying to be special" sorta reminds me of the argument in some places on practicing magick or being mystics. Not all of us walk the same paths everyone else does, and I don't consider any of it good or bad or different or better or worse than anyone else. I think that everyone needs to follow their own True Will--provided that they are responsible in how they do so and that others are free to do the same.

I think that in time... maybe... perhaps... enough of us will evolve to the point where this sorta thing will be more commonplace. I'd truly love to think so. At the very least, I believe that if enough people believe that, it can happen. I think that to do otherwise is to cave in to the Nothing of the Neverending Story, doomed to be swallowed forever in lies and denials of the self.
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 01:48 am (UTC)
Re: My 2 cents
I don't consider magick to be supernatural. The term supernatural itself strikes me as a misnomer--if it's "super"-natural, how can it be natural? I'd quote Arthur C Clarke here but eh... I think you get the idea. ^_^

White and fluffy. Gah. Yes, I've grokked that for a lack of a better term. I don't think one person can heal the world. I think people can help each other and use their abilities to assist--and those whom I know who do (self included) frequently wind up doing it at the expense of themselves, and wind up jaded and frustrated. I've been there.

I definitely don't think angels are not messed up. They GOTTA be more messed up than non-angels; I don't see any other way that they couldn't be.

Out of curiosity... how do you see angels? I see them as varied as I see any other daimon, but was curious to hear your take.

If it matters any... my own personal guardian angel is beyond not fluffy, and is definitely not "white". ^_^
silussa on July 21st, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)
Re: My 2 cents
I have a hypothesis that 'kin tend to be messed up due to the mismatch between mental and physical.

On 'kin and magic, I would point out that the Rhine psychic tests suggested the possibility of "goats"...people who were psychic, but sufficiently disbelieved that they actually scored LOWER on tests then probability would suggest.

We're ALL messed up, at least somewhat. And we probably all are questioning what we believe we are. Which suggests we're at least sane. :)
~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 01:59 am (UTC)
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Questioning what we are... I've done this for over a decade, gone back and forth... and concluded that while it's healthy to question it turns me into the anti-psychic. I've literally verified this on ESP tests. The moment my conscious mind gets involved and overthinks shit, I get every damned question wrong. Every...damned...one.

Being messed up isn't so bad. It's learning to make it an asset as opposed to a liability, I think, that makes it into something worthwhile. Turning the dross into gold, so to speak. But I also am a fan of spiritual alchemy.
silussa on July 21st, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
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From the viewpoint of psychiatrists...if it helps you deal with reality, then you're not crazy.

Myself, I spent 20 years studying people. When you realize you just don't THINK the way you do, there aren't a lot of choices.

I've added memories of how I died in three past lives since then. Note: poison is NOT painless; a paralytic is rather like drowning. I don't recommend it.

Incidentally, I'm impressed. Do you know what the odds are of getting EVERYTHING wrong on a Rhine test? Repeatedly?

Remind me not to get you pissed at me; I suspect life would go to hell in a hurry.
~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)
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I got eight answers in a row correct before I started to think about the process, then got the next one wrong...beat myself up over it, then got the next...and the next... and so on about 15-20 times in a row.

Yeah, I know. My dad told me the same thing after he had me pick a ton of numbers for lottery tickets and I didn't get a single one. Not a single one.

On past lives: black plague wasn't fun either.

*g* Yes, I have five modes. I refer to them all in terms of Defcon. If I can count to five, that's my low level. That's good. At one, it means I can't even count to one before I go ripshit. I VERY rarely get there. It is not fun and weird acts of telekinesis tend to happen and not in a good way. It also sorta feels like I'm possessed.

Thanks to a good deal of emotional control, self-evaluation, and a fuckton of alchemy it takes an awful lot to get me there. I don't get fussed too easily and have a pretty thick skin. I have my occasional button and I'm working on eliminating those.

It's an endless process.
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~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
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I can't say that I blame them.
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~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 02:01 am (UTC)
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I've noticed the definite majority of angels believe themselves to be "fallen". Me personally, I don't feel it. I don't think that omgs! Life is beautiful and rainbows and kittens, but I just never felt the fallen thing. I do have memories that would suggest that at least one of my lives was decidedly kin of the vampiric sort, and I think I've been compensating--perhaps overcompensating--ever since.

Maybe that classifies me as fallen right there. Hm.

As for me and deity, I'm a polytheist but that's a whole other can of worms. ^_^
silussa on July 21st, 2008 02:00 am (UTC)
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of course, if you REALLY want "messed up"...just consider the various subgroups of 'kin (elves, therianthropes, some dragons), all busily claiming that THEY are normal while pointing fingers at the others.

Then there are the other "fringe" cultures, such as vampires. (anyone see "Mad, Mad House" on Sci-Fi? they're not kidding) Many of them are involved in subdividing into groups and pointing fingers the same way.

From a personal standpoint, if I was trying to do a "divide and conquer" approach, I couldn't do any better.

*soft laugh*

For the record, I am very much NOT fluffy. Quite cold-blooded when it suits, actually, and capable of being quite the manipulative bitch.
~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
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I'm familiar with the vampires and have interacted with them in the past. Still interact with some, in fact.

I think that we are naturally subdivisive, unfortunately. Our society conditions us this way. We want labels and boxes. I personally hate them and they make me itch--but I see people claiming the same damned thing who run around the next second sticking themselves into a box.

You can't win.

I'm a tad perky and maybe a little too energetic for my own good but I have my dark sides too. I'd be an idiot to not acknowledge them or they'll be the master of me, and I'd rather not have it that way.
silussa on July 21st, 2008 02:12 am (UTC)
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All generalizations are false, including this one.
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~* Aliael *~starry_wings on July 21st, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
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Yeah that's the thing... I wasn't even raised in a Christian background. I'd best describe myself as having been raised in a "secular Jewish household" where Hanukkah meant getting presents for eight days and Easter meant chocolates and Christmas "seeing family for food and more presents." In short, holidays meant family and there was no religion whatsoever. My mom is violently allergic to religion having been raised in parochial school and my dad is profoundly psychic, somewhat spiritual but definitely not religious but pulls out the Jewish cultural and religious stuff when it comes to honoring his dead family.

But eh... I'm getting sidetracked. Needless to say yeah I hear ya, all different stripes and colors. The bulk of my exposure to angels has been for the most part ceremonial magick and Enochian magick. My EXPERIENCE, on the other hand, doesn't always match up with either "sides'" stereotype of things. Angels to me have for the most part been faceless beings of light and energy.

Ditto with demons. I've encountered a few and they're not bad at all, actually--they're about as varied as humans. Just treat them with respect and they'll do the same, for the most part. I've never seen what was so bad about them aside from their energy is "cthonic" and angels are "celestial".

End of my two cents' worth which is frequently more like two bucks. Sorry for the long-windedness. ^_^
silussa on July 21st, 2008 10:50 pm (UTC)
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If I tried to adhere to what was true in the past (or future), on different places and realities....I'd be an idiot. :)

That you may not have existed in my previous reality doesn't mean that you can't exist now, nor that your existence has any less weight, nor that I can not learn from your views and opinions and observations and thoughts.

I admit the idea of vampires being real through me for quite the loop. Yet they exist anyway, so I'd best accommodate them in my worldview now...and thus I have.